Dec 13, 2007

"Gullible-warming solutions" - Hot air and hypocrisy in Bali

Two week stay in outrageously lavish setting singing
songs and making impossible claims.

Sending staff to "meetings" in Vegas or Hawaii is bad enough... but Bali? Come on.

Here are a few comments fr0m Bali article:
Simple answers why the US rejects climate guidelines at Bali conference

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." - Tolstoi
Posted by Rachel on December 13, 2007 10:23 AM

Cui Bono? Follow the money to see where the 'concern' over global warming lies. Consultants (feeding off the public trough), traders, politicians and grant-obsessed scientists are not impartial arbiters of the situation. All these so-called experts can't tell me what the weather will be like in five days times - do they actually expect me to take them seriously over a longer time frame?
Posted by Roland Mahoney on December 13, 2007 9:40 AM

"The Scientists Speak" The goal of those who dreamed up the global warming scare has always been reduction of industrial activity. Their main target is the United States. If U.S. leaders buy into this highly questionable science and its equally dubious solutions, our nation will be brought down to a level where it can be comfortably merged with others in a world government. This is the bottom line being sought by the global warming fearmongers.

The IPPC writes bad science. And those who accept it are producing dangerous solutions to a non-problem. But those thousands of "experts" should have a nice vacation in Bali.
Posted by John F. McManus on December 11, 2007 21:29

Get with it. It is serious but taxing carbon isn't the answer. Conserving oil is essential because it is a finite and limited resource and has far better uses than powering transport vehicles or heating houses. The sooner the international community gets the message that this "end game" is here to stay and they can't do anything to stop it and get on with sorting out what needs to be done to alleviate the worst effects - bearing in mind the process may take a couple of thousand years - then we might see a few less of these ridiculous jollies where hordes of "no brains" without so much as an E grade CSE in General Science between them, generate enough hot air to take them all home by balloon.
Posted by Jim Jarvis BSc (Aeronautical Engineering) on December 13, 2007 9:16 AM

When you read that burning wood chips in a Welsh power station will be releasing carbon and so offsetting the CO2 that the trees absorbed,you begin to understand that the entire concept of carbon trading is a joke. Unless we export CO2 to another planet, carbon trading is a zero sum game but one that will waste large chunks of bureaucratic energy that has to be paid for....
Posted by Paul on December 13, 2007 9:09 AM

One of these days there is going to be another massive volcanic eruption somewhere in the world: it is inevitable. The ensuing effects on the climate will massively outweigh any alleged man made contribution. Hopefully such a seismic event - which has happened frequently in the past - will concentrate people's minds and perhaps bring a bit of common sense to the debate.
But I wouldn't count on it.
Posted by JohnD on December 13, 2007 8:46 AM

Offer any eco-mentalist or minor politician the chance of a taxpayer funded couple of weeks in a luxury hotel in Bali and they'd all be off like a shot, so these 15,000 freeloaders are no different. However, I would be interested to know if any figures are yet available as to the financial and environmental cost of this obscenely hypocritical junket.
Posted by Dr John Cameron on December 13, 2007 8:35 AM